usapang status quo
cecilee wrote:| ubermensch Posting Expert Joined: Dec 2005 |
2008-05-05 20:23  Mind you guys, kapitalistang tunay ang Unitel. Ooops, Unitel Group of Companies na pala kasi part na niya ang Optima at Opticolors. Opticolors is the new LVN.
Well, sabi nga ni blue_spirit subjective ang term na indie. Kaya siguro sinasabi nila Juday na hindi siya indie kasi naka-20 million din sila at 35mm ang gamit ng movie. |
| spitfire0928 Forum Resident Joined: Jul 2006 |
2008-05-05 22:06 ^ i don’t mind if they’re capitalistas, so long as they make money out of good films, para that they would be encouraged to make more.
about the movie: good points: cinematography, fantastic settings, above average performances of most of the cast, specially juday (meaning non – histrionics, sampalan, sabunutan, sigawan acting), the use of a dialect (definitely a plus points on my book), different style of story telling not – so good points: sounds (i dunno if it was the theatre house, but the sound seems to echo), the supposed “mystery/twist” of the story (medyo kulang sa shock on my part), and gina pareno’s performance is a tad over the top. nonetheless, a pretty decent film. definitely worth your time and money. |
| ubermensch Posting Expert Joined: Dec 2005 |
2008-05-08 10:51
You don’t mind if the producers of the film are capitalistas as long as they make money out of good films? As far as I am concern, with Independent Cinema rising in our country, filmmakers are not only filmmakers, they are also rebels. They fight hegemony and tend not to perpetuate the status quo. They interrogate the ruling socio-political-ecomomic establishments in this country. How can you make good films kung may kapitalista kang producer na magdidikta sa ‘yo ng gagawin mo sa hindi? well, opinion ko lang naman yun but i still respect your opinion. anyway, i agree with torifreak with his critique but what triggered me reply here is this: “still found juday’s performance lacking. may pagka-singsong pa rin ang pag-deliver niya ng ibang lines. very choreographed. nakukulangan pa rin ako sa pagka-natural.” I vehemently disagree. Juday’s acting in Ploning is very good and natural. Ang ganda ng characterization ni Ploning at nabigyan naman siya ng justice ni Juday. |
| spitfire0928 Forum Resident Joined: Jul 2006 |
2008-05-08 18:10 my dear, though your idealism has touched me, you have to understand that we are in a third world country. ideally, yeah, film makers should have the freedom to create excellent movies without having to be pressured to generate money, but i don’t think we could afford to be that ideal.
also, let’s admit that these big companies/ capitalistas have the power to distribute movies on a larger scale. maganda sana if we could produce quality films that are also sellable, so that filipino viewers in general would have access to them. and who knows, maybe by doing this, we could somewhat improve filipino movie viewership. it’s just using the resources for the right reasons. so iyon. [This message was edited by spitfire0928 on 2008-05-08 18:15] |
| niknokniknoknik Forum Resident Joined: Aug 2006 |
2008-05-08 19:50 ^^ Yah, the sad realities of the Philippine movie industry. We really can’t expect more movies of this caliber because ultimately they don’t translate to ticket sales in the end. |
| ubermensch Posting Expert Joined: Dec 2005 |
2008-05-08 21:27
I think Ploning is very marketable and good film but Filipinos are educated to watch senseless bobofying movies like blah blah blah… (and that’s because of the capitalists). What I am trying to say is that we can do something without the capitalists, thank god, cinemalaya and cinemanila! but, i think you are the one ideal here, capitalists wont make movies that will interrogate the status quo. |
| torifreak Member Joined: Aug 2001 |
2008-05-09 00:33 i agree with ubermensch re capitalists. pero i still didn’t like juday. hehe. weird pero mas gusto ko si juday sa kasal, kasali, kasalo – maybe because she didn’t have to act there kaya natural at bagay na bagay. |
| spitfire0928 Forum Resident Joined: Jul 2006 |
2008-05-12 12:27
interrogate the status quo? it seems that we are totally on different planes. yeah, i am an idealist, but on a different sense. siguro what i wanted is to not negate the possible contributions of these capitalists. as you may now, we are not one of those countries that could sustain the whole independent film industry. heck, even ploning acquired corporate sponsors to help finance the film. |
| ubermensch Posting Expert Joined: Dec 2005 |
2008-05-12 13:14 yes, interrogate the status quo, ano ba ang kasalukuyang estado ng bansa natin? don’t tell me you are going to support and perpetuate the status quo and work with the prevailing order and compromise with the culture of compliance.
tsk, tsk. kawawa na talaga na ang bansa natin. |
| spitfire0928 Forum Resident Joined: Jul 2006 |
2008-05-12 13:31 ^ hmmm… i think this discussion should be on a separate thread my dear. and what do you actually mean by your last statement? ang akin lang is we make do with what we have and be practical. and don’t you dare talk to me about kawawa naman ang bansa natin blah blah blah. you don’t know me that much to imply that i desire to perpetuate the status quo. you reserve such judgement when you get to know me – til then, hold your tongue.
anyway, may coffee table book pala ito. nice. |
| ubermensch Posting Expert Joined: Dec 2005 |
2008-05-12 14:17 this is soo of offtopic. whatever your beliefs are, okay, go on, itaguyod mo yan. but one thing is for sure, hindi matupad-tupad ang minimithi nating pagsasabansa dahil sa mga kapitalistang yan. |
 spitfire0928Forum Resident Joined: Jul 2006 |
2008-05-12 14:41 ^ of course i will, don’t you worry my dear. |
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really. kawawa naman ang bansa natin. tsk, tsk.
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